Dr. Fauci Spars with Senator Paul on the mask wearing
"What specific studies do you quote that the public should wear masks well in 2022?"
Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.), A doctor of the eyes, andDr. Anthony FauciThe Chief Medical Officer of the President and Director of the National Institute of the Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said yesterday to the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Workforce and pensions on "consider our response from COVID-19: an update of federal officials. "The object? Why we would wear a mask in 2022, while many should have immunity. It was not their first time. Read on the back and forward - and to ensure your health and health of others, do not miss theseWithout signs that you have already had coronavirus.
Dr. Faisci and Sen. Paul were blocked on the mask bearing
SEN. Paul:Dr. Faisci, in a recent British study, David Wiley and others found that no symptomatic reinfection of COVID-19 after following the 2,800 patients for several months. In fact, there has been no reporting of a significant number of reinfections after the natural acquisition of COVID-19. Shane Credy, a virust of the Institute of Immunology, concludes from his experiences that the amount of the immune memory gained from a natural infection would probably prevent the vast majority of people from obtaining a hospitalized illness, a serious illness for many years.
In this study, which has been published inScienceDr. Crady has shown that antibody levels have remained relatively constant with modest declines of more than six to eight months. Dr CRADY reported that in particular of spike protein or RBD-specific memory cells were detected in almost all cases of CVIV-19 without apparent half-life at five to eight months after infection.
In other words, Dr. Credy has seen an important evidence of long-term immunity after COVID infection. In addition, Dr. Crady noted that the B-cell B memory with some other infections was observed as long as 60 years after the vaccination of smallpox or even 90 years after a natural infection with the flu. It was a woman who got the Spanish flu, has always showed an immunity 90 years later. So, rather than being pessimistic towards people winning immunity after having Covid or having a vaccine, studies are competing for significant optimism. In fact, no scientific studies are competing or proves that COVID infection does not create immunity.
No studies were important showing a significant number of reinfections of 30 million Americans who had COVID. Only a handful of reinfection has been discovered. In fact, theNew York TimesAt the last fall, more than 38 million people at the time of the world were infected with the coronavirus. And on that date, less than five of these cases had been confirmed by scientists to be reinfection. Scientists interviewed for the article in most cases, a second fight with the virus produces light or symptoms or any at all.
Given that no scientific study showed a significant number of reinfections of previously or previously vaccinated patients, what specific studies do you cite to argue that the public should wear masks well in 2022?
Dr. Fauci:I'm not sure I understand the connection of what you say about masks and reinfection. We are talking about people who have never been infected before.
SEN. Paul:You say to everyone to wear a mask, whether they have an infection or a vaccine. What I'm saying is that they have immunity and everyone accepts their immunity. What studies do you have that people who have had the vaccine or have the infection disseminating infection? If we do not spread infection, is not it just theater?
Dr. Fauci:No it is not-
SEN. Paul:If you had a vaccine and we wear two masks, this theater is not it?
Dr. Fauci:No it is not. We go here with the theater. Let's go to the facts. OK? The studies you quote ... examine the in vitro examination of memory immunity, which, in their paper, they specifically say, it does not necessarily concern the actual protection. It's in vitro.
SEN. Paul:And what studies can you indicate that this shows a significant reinfection? There are no studies that show-
Dr. Fauci:Allow me to finish the answer to your question, if you please. The other thing is that when you talk about reinfection and you do not keep in the concept of variants, it's a fully different ball game. It's a good reason for a mask. In the South African study conducted by J & J. They discovered that wild-type infected people and were exposed to the variant in South Africa, 351, it was as if they had never been infected previously. They had no protection. So when you talk about reinfection, you need to make sure you talk about wild type. I agree with you that you would most likely have protection against wild type for at least six months if you are infected. But in our country, we now have variants circulating.
SEN. Paul:What study shows a significant reinfection, hospitalization and death, after natural infection or vaccine? It does not exist. There is no evidence that there is a significant reinfection after the vaccine. In fact, I do not think I have hospitalization in the United States after the two-week period after the second vaccination. Do you have a death in the United States?
Dr. Fauci:You do not hear what I say about variants. We speak of wild type compared to variants. And now they are-
SEN. Paul:What evidence does it exist that there is a significant reinfection with hospitalizations and the death of variants? None in our country, zero.
Dr. Fauci:Well, because we have not widespread a variant yet. We have one ... May I finish? We have 117 it becomes more dominant
SEN. Paul:You make the policy based on conjecture.
Dr. Fauci:It's not based on conjecture.
Then there is the Crossk and Senator Paul says: "Variants, so you will not be able to wear mask for a few more years. You have been vaccinated and scroll in two masks for the show."
Dr. Fauci:No.
SEN. Paul:You can no longer refuse it. There is virtually 0% chance that you will get it. And yet, you tell people who have had the vaccine that have immunity, you challenge everything we know about immunity by saying people to wear masks that have been vaccinated. Instead, you should say that there is no science to say that we are going to have a problem with the large number of people vaccinated. You want to get rid of the hesitation of the vaccine, tell them that they can stop carrying their mask after getting the vaccine. You want people to get the vaccine? Give them a reward, instead of telling them that Nanny's state is going to be there for three years and you have to wear a mask forever. People do not want to hear that there is no science behind her.
Dr. Fauci:Well, let me just indicate the disk that the masks are not theater. Masks are protective and we ask
SEN. Paul:If they have immunity, they are theater. If you already have an immunity, you wear a mask to comfort others. You do not wear a mask because of
Dr. Fauci:I do not agree with you at all.
SEN. Patty Murray:If you could answer the question, so that we can all understand the difference between the vaccine to control the wild type compared to the variants that are there and the reason to wear a mask. I would appreciate.
Dr. Fauci:Yes. Yes. First of all, when you have a variant, you have an immunity you get what is convalescent, Sarah and the same kind of thing if I vaccinate you and me against the wild type, you get some level of specific antibodies For a particular viral strain.If there is a circulating variant, you do not necessarily have one. You have a spill immunity to be sure, but you decrease by two to eight times the protection. So, the point I'm saying is that there are variants that circulate now.
Senator Paul was only if you look only the wild guy, there is some clear cutting debt to what he says, but we now live in a situation where we have a domination of 117, which was the original British. We have a very troublesome variant in New York of 526. We have two variants in California of 427, 429, and we have a number of others. We do not deal with a static situation of the same virus. It was the only point I'm doing.
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